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==Features==
 
==Features==
Added in firmware 6. It This allows sampling a reference tone “fingerprint” and matching the user’s tone to that sound.
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* Added in firmware 6. It This allows sampling a reference tone “fingerprint” and matching the user’s tone to that sound.
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* Detailed information in this [http://www.fractalaudio.com/downloads/manuals/axe-fx-2/Axe-Fx-II-Tone-Match-Manual.pdf mini manual].
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* Here's a video made by SoloAWeek /  ccroyalsenders: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zj-lzxzjnM
  
==IR export and sharing==
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==IR export==
 
The sampled data in the Tone Match block can be converted into an user cabinet IR.
 
The sampled data in the Tone Match block can be converted into an user cabinet IR.
  
==Tone matching real amps==
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==About Amp Matching==
 
* Cliff (about matching the amp models in firmware 6): "The speaker was not part of the equation. The benefit to this technique is that the cabinet is completely separated. "Profiling" lumps the speaker IR with the amplifier output IR since linear functions are not separable. That's why those products don't work well when you try to run into a power amp and conventional guitar cab. You don't really want to use a load box though, if you can help it. A real speaker is a much more realistic load. All you need is a DI box that can handle speaker level signals. You don't even really need a DI box. All you need is a resistive divider to knock the voltage down to line level. I have a simple little box that just has some resistors and a pot to reduce the level which I then send to Input 2." [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/axe-fx-ii-discussion/51150-tone-match-question-regarding-presets.html#post659137 Source]
 
* Cliff (about matching the amp models in firmware 6): "The speaker was not part of the equation. The benefit to this technique is that the cabinet is completely separated. "Profiling" lumps the speaker IR with the amplifier output IR since linear functions are not separable. That's why those products don't work well when you try to run into a power amp and conventional guitar cab. You don't really want to use a load box though, if you can help it. A real speaker is a much more realistic load. All you need is a DI box that can handle speaker level signals. You don't even really need a DI box. All you need is a resistive divider to knock the voltage down to line level. I have a simple little box that just has some resistors and a pot to reduce the level which I then send to Input 2." [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/axe-fx-ii-discussion/51150-tone-match-question-regarding-presets.html#post659137 Source]
 
* Cliff: "There is NO substitute for shooting an IR of the cab. IMO, this is the single most important thing you can do. Everything else is attempting to learn the cab IR through an indirect method and then you have inseparability. If you shoot the IR then do a Tone Match you can change the cab after or do another IR with a different mic or mic position and your matching data is still valid." [http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showpost.php?p=13055776&postcount=55 Source]
 
* Cliff: "There is NO substitute for shooting an IR of the cab. IMO, this is the single most important thing you can do. Everything else is attempting to learn the cab IR through an indirect method and then you have inseparability. If you shoot the IR then do a Tone Match you can change the cab after or do another IR with a different mic or mic position and your matching data is still valid." [http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showpost.php?p=13055776&postcount=55 Source]
* Cliff: "Matching an amp is way easier than matching a recording. I do this every day. The trick is feeding the same signal to the amp and the amp block at the same time. The worst way to match an amp is to record it and then try to match it via a recording. The best way is to use a y-cable and send the same signal to the amp and the model.
 
Another approach (which is what I do) is to use Output 2 and send that to the amp. You can then send either the signal from the guitar or an analytic signal from the synth block as the stimulus waveform. Pink or white noise works great as do certain types of frequency sweeps (but these are more challenging to program). [http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showpost.php?p=13050231&postcount=18 Source]
 
* Cliff: "What *I* do is the following: Plug guitar into Axe-Fx. Route input to both amp and fx loop. Connect Output 2 to amp. Connect mic pre t Input 2. Turn Out 2 Level knob to full. Start capture on BOTH reference and user. Play a bunch of chords up and down the neck. Press Enter. Done. Another technique is to insert a synth block before the amp/fx loop and use test tones instead. Pink noise works well. I also have a "mathematical" set of six swept triangle waves that also works well. You need two synth blocks to do this."[http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showpost.php?p=13014946&postcount=7 Source]
 
  
==How to do it==
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==How to perform Amp Matching==
* There's detailed information in this [http://www.fractalaudio.com/downloads/manuals/axe-fx-2/Axe-Fx-II-Tone-Match-Manual.pdf mini manual].
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Here is a brief step-by-step guide to matching an amp, created by Fractal. [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/axe-fx-ii-tone-match/54361-amp-matching-tutorial.html Source]
* And here's a video made by SoloAWeek /  ccroyalsenders: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zj-lzxzjnM
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This assumes assumes you have obtained an impulse response of the cabinet being used.
* Cliff's own amp matching template is [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/axe-fx-ii-tone-match/52535-amp-matching-template.html available here].
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# Connect guitar to input of Axe-Fx.
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# Connect Output 2 Left to input of amplifier being matched.
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# Connect output of amp to speaker.
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# Connect mic to preamp. Connect preamp output to Input 2 Left.
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# In the I/O->AUDIO menu set the following:
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#* MAIN INPUT SOURCE: ANALOG IN (1)
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#* INPUT 1 LEFT SELECT: LEFT
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#* INPUT 1 MODE: LEFT ONLY
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#* INPUT 2 MODE: LEFT ONLY
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# Download and install the [http://www.fractalaudio.com/download...g_template.syx Amp Matching Template preset].
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# Select the IR of the cabinet that you captured in the cabinet block. The preset uses User 1. If your captured IR is not in User 1, then select the appropriate user slot.
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# Connect a latching or momentary footswitch to the Pedal jack. In the I/O->Pedal menu set the pedal type accordingly. In the I/O->CTRL menu set EXT CTRL 1 to "PEDAL". The pedal now selects between the amp and the Axe-Fx amp block.
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# Tap the footswitch until the Amp block is bypassed. This sends the signal at Input 2 through the Mixer block and to the main outputs. I have a Reverb block in there because I can't stand totally dry guitar sounds.
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# Turn the Output 2 Level knob on the front panel all the way up. Play something and adjust the output of the mic preamp to get a good signal level into Input 2 using the Input 2 LEDs as a reference. Adjust the Input 2 trim in the I/O->INPUT menu if necessary. Make sure the mic preamp is not clipping too.
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# Make note of the general amount of distortion as you are playing. Now tap the footswitch to select the Amp block. Select an amp that is close to the amp being matched. In this example it quickly became evident that the real amp has much more gain so I increased the Input Trim in the Amp block to get more gain. The real amp is a bit darker as well so I decreased the Hi Cut Freq and Triode Plate Freqs a bit as well. Now switch back and forth between the amp and the model and adjust the gain and level until they match. Roll off the guitar volume to verify that the gain is correct. With the volume rolled off you can hear the start of break-up and adjust the gain accordingly. It is not necessary to get an exact match. Just roughly the same.
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# Tap the footswitch to select the Amp block. Now go to the Tone Matching block and press X and then press Y. Play some chords up and down the neck to get a good frequency density into the analysis engine. Do this for about ten seconds and then press Enter. Congratulations, you now have an amp match.
  
 
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Revision as of 09:14, 24 June 2012

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Features

IR export

The sampled data in the Tone Match block can be converted into an user cabinet IR.

About Amp Matching

  • Cliff (about matching the amp models in firmware 6): "The speaker was not part of the equation. The benefit to this technique is that the cabinet is completely separated. "Profiling" lumps the speaker IR with the amplifier output IR since linear functions are not separable. That's why those products don't work well when you try to run into a power amp and conventional guitar cab. You don't really want to use a load box though, if you can help it. A real speaker is a much more realistic load. All you need is a DI box that can handle speaker level signals. You don't even really need a DI box. All you need is a resistive divider to knock the voltage down to line level. I have a simple little box that just has some resistors and a pot to reduce the level which I then send to Input 2." Source
  • Cliff: "There is NO substitute for shooting an IR of the cab. IMO, this is the single most important thing you can do. Everything else is attempting to learn the cab IR through an indirect method and then you have inseparability. If you shoot the IR then do a Tone Match you can change the cab after or do another IR with a different mic or mic position and your matching data is still valid." Source

How to perform Amp Matching

Here is a brief step-by-step guide to matching an amp, created by Fractal. Source This assumes assumes you have obtained an impulse response of the cabinet being used.

  1. Connect guitar to input of Axe-Fx.
  2. Connect Output 2 Left to input of amplifier being matched.
  3. Connect output of amp to speaker.
  4. Connect mic to preamp. Connect preamp output to Input 2 Left.
  5. In the I/O->AUDIO menu set the following:
    • MAIN INPUT SOURCE: ANALOG IN (1)
    • INPUT 1 LEFT SELECT: LEFT
    • INPUT 1 MODE: LEFT ONLY
    • INPUT 2 MODE: LEFT ONLY
  6. Download and install the Amp Matching Template preset.
  7. Select the IR of the cabinet that you captured in the cabinet block. The preset uses User 1. If your captured IR is not in User 1, then select the appropriate user slot.
  8. Connect a latching or momentary footswitch to the Pedal jack. In the I/O->Pedal menu set the pedal type accordingly. In the I/O->CTRL menu set EXT CTRL 1 to "PEDAL". The pedal now selects between the amp and the Axe-Fx amp block.
  9. Tap the footswitch until the Amp block is bypassed. This sends the signal at Input 2 through the Mixer block and to the main outputs. I have a Reverb block in there because I can't stand totally dry guitar sounds.
  10. Turn the Output 2 Level knob on the front panel all the way up. Play something and adjust the output of the mic preamp to get a good signal level into Input 2 using the Input 2 LEDs as a reference. Adjust the Input 2 trim in the I/O->INPUT menu if necessary. Make sure the mic preamp is not clipping too.
  11. Make note of the general amount of distortion as you are playing. Now tap the footswitch to select the Amp block. Select an amp that is close to the amp being matched. In this example it quickly became evident that the real amp has much more gain so I increased the Input Trim in the Amp block to get more gain. The real amp is a bit darker as well so I decreased the Hi Cut Freq and Triode Plate Freqs a bit as well. Now switch back and forth between the amp and the model and adjust the gain and level until they match. Roll off the guitar volume to verify that the gain is correct. With the volume rolled off you can hear the start of break-up and adjust the gain accordingly. It is not necessary to get an exact match. Just roughly the same.
  12. Tap the footswitch to select the Amp block. Now go to the Tone Matching block and press X and then press Y. Play some chords up and down the neck to get a good frequency density into the analysis engine. Do this for about ten seconds and then press Enter. Congratulations, you now have an amp match.