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Latest revision as of 05:12, 11 October 2021

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What are BandHelper and Set List Maker

BandHelper and Set List Maker (both by Arlomedia) are popular tablet/smartphone apps for musicians.

The apps support MIDI which enables them to switch presets on other devices resp. listen to other devices.

Connection

Connect the tablet/smartphone to the other device. The required cable/hardware depends on the device.

Make sure the interface works, by going into Repertoire > MIDI Devices. Make sure the devices operate on the same MIDI channel.

Axe-Fx III — Unlike the Axe-Fx II, the Axe-Fx III's USB port operates as a host USB. You can directly connect a smartphone or tablet through USB with the suitable adapter. The III supports only incoming MIDI-over-USB traffic, not outgoing MIDI-over-USB. This means that you can use an USB-connected iPad to send Program Changes to the III, but the III won't transmit Program Changes through USB to another device.

FM9 — Same as the Axe-Fx III.

FM3 — The FM3 is not capable of receiving MIDI via its USB port. If you'd like to control it via MIDI, you will need to connect to the MIDI IN port of the device. Something like the | Yamaha MD-BT01 BlueTooth MIDI device will work for this purpose.

App operates as master

To make the app transmit MIDI Program Changes to a Fractal Audio device or MIDI controller with songs:

  • Make sure the MIDI interface is installed and devices are connected.
  • Create a MIDI Preset for each song in the app.
  • In the MIDI Program Changes field:
AX8:
Enter 0 in Bank MSB
Enter the MIDI Bank Select (cc#0) value in Bank LSB (single digit) (0,1,2,3) as per page 100 of AX8 manual.
Enter the Program Change number in the 3rd field (without preceding zero) as per page 100 of AX8 manual.

Axe-Fx II:
Enter 0 in Bank MSB
Enter the bank number in Bank LSB (single digit)
Enter the Program Change number in the 3rd field (without preceding zero)

Axe-Fx III Mark I:
Enter the bank number in Bank MSB: 0, 1, 3 or 4
Enter "1" in Bank LSB
Enter the Program Change number in the 3rd field (without preceding zero)
  • Make sure to enter the data in the correct channel (connected devices must use the same MIDI channel. There's no need to set up a specific MIDI device in the app.
  • Attach the MIDI preset to the song.

You need to do this for each song.

Edit Layouts > Details > Actions to make the app send the MIDI preset automatically when selecting a song. And/or add a MIDI icon to your layout to push.

App operates as slave

To make the app listen to incoming MIDI Program Changes from a Fractal Audio device or MIDI controller:

  • Make sure the MIDI interface is installed in Repertoire > MIDI Devices and devices are connected
  • In Settings > Remote Control check the port and channel
  • In Settings > Remote Control set MIDI Program Number to: Program Change (if you don't do this, there will be no MIDI Program Number field in each song)
  • Edit each song, and in the field MIDI Program Number add the following:
AX8:
Enter 0 in Bank MSB
Enter the MIDI Bank Select (cc#0) value in Bank LSB (single digit) (0,1,2,3) as per page 100 of AX8 manual.
Enter the Program Change number that you have configured in the scene (page 43 in AX8 manual) in the 3rd field.

Axe-Fx II:
Enter the bank number in Bank MSB (one digit)
Enter 0 in Bank LSB
Enter the Program Change number (without preceding zero)

Axe-Fx III:
Enter the bank number in Bank MSB: 1, 2, 3 or 4
Enter "0" in Bank LSB
Enter the Program Change number (without preceding zero)

Make sure the connected devices use the same MIDI channel. Configure BandHelper's Remote Control MIDI Input Channel to match the MIDI channel number as the Fractal device (default channel 1).

Note that the AX8 does not send MIDI PC changes on the USB port. You must use the MIDI Out/Thru port.

If you configure BandHelper's layout to send a PC change on song selection, and also have BandHelper's Remote Control responding to PC changes, you may get an endless loop of PC changes back and forth. To avoid this, configure BandHelper's layout setting to only send PC data to Fractal unit on "song second selection" instead of "song selection". You will need to select song again to send the PC to Fractal. Or use a MIDI button on the layout to manually send PC change upon button press.

More information

Read more about syncing the app BandHelper with the Axe-Fx and RJM Mastermind GT

Apps from other companies/developers, such as OnSong, operate in the same way.

MIDI Song Number

As of early 2021, the maximum value of the MIDI Song number in Bandhelper has been restricted to 128, to prevent people entering higher values that may crash older midi systems.