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The Tri-Chorus is a very lush chorus that was very popular among studio players in the 80s and 90s. The original devices have been discontinued, but there are a few replicas. | The Tri-Chorus is a very lush chorus that was very popular among studio players in the 80s and 90s. The original devices have been discontinued, but there are a few replicas. | ||
− | '''AX8, FX8 and Axe-Fx II''' – Use the Chorus and/or Quad Chorus (Axe-Fx II only) effects, combined with Pitch Detune. [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/another-tri-chorus-thread.99868 forum discussion] | + | '''AX8, FX8''' and '''Axe-Fx II''' – Use the Chorus and/or Quad Chorus (Axe-Fx II only) effects, combined with Pitch Detune. [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/another-tri-chorus-thread.99868 forum discussion] |
− | '''Axe-Fx III and FM3 and FM9''' – The Chorus block has an authentic Tri-Chorus emulation type, based on a Dytronics Songbird TSC-1380. [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/which-tri-chorus-was-used-for-modeling-as-its-not-clear.136778/#post-1620722 forum discussion] [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/michael-landau-style-tri-stereo-chorus.139154 Demonstration by Camilo Velandia] | + | '''Axe-Fx III''' and '''FM3''' and '''FM9''' – The Chorus block has an authentic Tri-Chorus emulation type, based on a Dytronics Songbird TSC-1380. [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/which-tri-chorus-was-used-for-modeling-as-its-not-clear.136778/#post-1620722 forum discussion] [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/michael-landau-style-tri-stereo-chorus.139154 Demonstration by Camilo Velandia] |
<blockquote>"It's just chorus. You can't do it with the II. It's a unique algorithm and there's no way to adjust the chorus block to get the same results. The III has a separate tri-chorus algorithm." [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/the-tri-chorus-sound.148267/#post-1753931]</blockquote> | <blockquote>"It's just chorus. You can't do it with the II. It's a unique algorithm and there's no way to adjust the chorus block to get the same results. The III has a separate tri-chorus algorithm." [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/the-tri-chorus-sound.148267/#post-1753931]</blockquote> |
Revision as of 14:19, 29 August 2021
Contents
Available on which products
- Axe-Fx III: 2 blocks
- FM3: 2 blocks
- FM9: 2 blocks
- Axe-Fx II: 2 blocks
- FX8: 2 blocks
- AX8: 1 block
Channels or X/Y switching
- Axe-Fx III and FM3 and FM9: 4 channels
- Axe-Fx II: X/Y
- FX8: X/Y
- AX8: X/Y
What is chorus
Chorus is created by duplicating the signal and then modulating the pitch of that signal slightly. Slightly delaying the wet signal emphasizes the effect.
Chorus types and effects
Types
- Digital Mono
- Digital Stereo
- Analog Mono
- Analog Stereo
- Japan CE-2
- Warm Stereo
- 80's Style
- Triangle Chorus
- 8-Voice Stereo
- Vintage Tape
- Dimension 1
- Dimension 2
- Dimension 3
- 4-Voice Analog
- 8-Voice Analog
- Stereo Tri-Chorus
- Dual Chorus
Boss CE-1
The Boss CE-1 is the pedal equivalent of the chorus in the Roland JC-120 amplifier.
Emulating the Boss CE-1 using a LFO-driven Flanger block
Leon Todd dials in the CE-1 sound, based on the 'Japan CE-2' type in the Chorus block with YouTube demo
That Pedal Show: Dan's Broken Ensemble
The factory preset CE-1 Chorus/Vibe also recreates the chorus and vibrato sounds of the CE-1.
Boss CE-2
This is the successor of the large grey CE-1. It was released in 1979, in the familiar Boss enclosure. It's a mono chorus.
Vintage tape
This type uses the tape delay algorithm from the Delay block. It sums the left and right block inputs into mono, so use caution as stereo cancellation may occur.
Dimension D
Based on Roland's SDD-320 Dimension D. Original manual
The Chorus block provides three Dimension types: Dimension 1, 2 and 3. These correspond to the modes on the original device.
The Dimension C pedal was created by Boss to produce the Dimension D effect through a pedal. In 2018 Boss released its DC-2W Dimension C pedal, an update which is part of the Waza Craft Series. YouTube
According to Guitar World, SRV used the Dimension D to add thicken his solos and still keep the tone natural.
"The Dimension Mode parameter turns on "Dimension Processing". This can be turned on in any type. However I highly recommend using the Dimension Type as it sets the correct base algorithm, LFO type, delay time, phase, etc., etc. as well as turning on the Dimension Processing. The Dimension D is really just a typical chorus. At the output, however, some special processing occurs that gives that unique sound. Turning Dimension Mode to one of the three settings engages the various aspects of that processing." [1]
"A Dimension D is a fairly typical chorus with some added analog processing on the outputs. The analog processing has a "normal" mode and a "boost" mode. The unit itself has four switches. These switches set the rate and the depth as well as turn on the boost mode. The switches do the following: Slow rate (0.25 Hz) and low depth, Slow rate and normal depth, Fast rate (0.5 Hz) and normal depth, Fast rate and normal depth and "boost" on. The depth is actually reduced in modes 3 and 4 to compensate for the higher rate. In the Axe-Fx this is done automatically when Auto Depth is on. Therefore I've indicated the depth as "normal" in modes 3 and 4 as the amount of pitch shift is roughly the same as mode 2. There is also an EQ that is present in all the modes on the dry signal. The LFO is a triangle wave and is 180 degrees out of phase between channels. The Dimension Mode parameter has three settings: Low, Medium and High. Low: Dry EQ off, boost off. Med: Dry EQ on, boost off. High: Dry EQ on, boost on. The Low setting has no equivalent on an actual Dimension D since the dry EQ is always active. The Dimension Type sets the LFO type, phase, Auto Depth, Hi Cut, etc., etc. and sets the Dimension Mode to Medium. With the appropriate settings of Rate and Depth you can duplicate modes 1, 2 & 3 on the actual Dimension D. To duplicate mode 4 you simply set the Dimension Mode to High. The Rates are given above. I've found a Depth of around 25% to be a good starting point. Increase or decrease to taste. The Type does NOT preset the Rate or Depth." [2]
Fractal Audio Blocks Guide about the Dimension Mode parameter:
- OFF: Dimension mode is not active
- LOW: A neutral version with no tonal coloration
* MED: Classic Dimension processing buttons 1-3. Set Rate to 0.25 - 0.50 Hz and Depth to taste
- HIGH: Classic Dimension processing button 4. Rate and Depth as above
For preset examples, search the Factory presets page for "dimension".
BBD algorithm
This uses an algorithm which is based on the BBD algorithm from the Flanger block. All the “Analog” chorus types use this algorithm, as well as the "Dimension 2" type: Analog Mono, Analog Stereo, Dimension 2, Dimension (and probably Japan CE-2).
"Those types use “analog” delay lines. The delay lines are virtual bucket brigade devices with the delay time controlled by a virtual oscillator. That behavior is consistent with how they would work in the real world." [3]
Vibrato
There's no dedicated Vibrato effect block or type.
You can create this effect by using a 100% wet Chorus (no dry signal). Select the Digital Mono chorus type. Keep everything at default, except: (source: M@)
- Rate: as desired
- Depth: 50%
- Delay Time: 0.10
- Auto Depth: High
- Mix: 100
- Level: -6
- Stereo Spread: 0
Roland uses a Sine wave for its Vibrato effect. [4]
Mix at 100% is not a absolute requirement. As documented here, the Vibrato mode of the venerable Boss CE-1 depends on a variable Mix setting.
Tri-Chorus
The Tri-Chorus is a very lush chorus that was very popular among studio players in the 80s and 90s. The original devices have been discontinued, but there are a few replicas.
AX8, FX8 and Axe-Fx II – Use the Chorus and/or Quad Chorus (Axe-Fx II only) effects, combined with Pitch Detune. forum discussion
Axe-Fx III and FM3 and FM9 – The Chorus block has an authentic Tri-Chorus emulation type, based on a Dytronics Songbird TSC-1380. forum discussion Demonstration by Camilo Velandia
"It's just chorus. You can't do it with the II. It's a unique algorithm and there's no way to adjust the chorus block to get the same results. The III has a separate tri-chorus algorithm." [5]
Videos:
Dual Chorus
Not available on the Axe-Fx II, AX8 and FX8.
This type has independent LFOs for the left and right delay lines. The delay lines are BBD emulations.
Creating a chorus with other blocks
The Multitap Delay block in firmware Ares and later can also create a lush multi-voice chorus.
The Pitch block and Plex Delay block can create a multi-voice detuning effect.
Leon Todd replicates the 8-voice chorus in Rocktron's Intellifex using the Multitap Delay
"Just use the flanger with zero feedback and modulate MANUAL. In some cases, the Flanger is now a better chorus than the chorus!" [6]
Creating the Arion SCH-1 chorus sound with the Flanger
Position of the Chorus block on the grid
You can put the Chorus block either before (PRE) or after (POST) the Amp block. Placed PRE, the block operates as a pedal on a traditional pedalboard. Placed POST, it takes the role of a studio/rack effect.
Mono or stereo chorus
A stereo Chorus block before the Amp block will be summed to mono, so make sure it is set to mono (LFO Phase: 0) to prevent phase cancellation issues.
Some chorus types (such as 80s and Triangle) "invert" the wet sound on one side. If you're collapsing the signal to mono after the Chorus block, the wet side will completely cancel and you'll hear no chorus at all.
More information about phase cancellation
Factory presets
The Chorus block is showcased in many factory presets. Search the Factory presets page for "chorus".
Parameters
Parameters table
Parameter | Axe-Fx III / FM3 |
---|---|
Type | yes |
BASIC | |
Voices | yes |
Rate | yes |
Tempo | yes |
Depth | yes |
Tri-Chorus + Dual Chorus: Left/Center/Right/Master Depth | yes |
Delay Time | yes |
EXPERT | |
Low Cut, High Cut | yes |
Phase Reverse | yes |
Drive | yes |
LFO Phase, Type | yes |
LFO2 Rate, Depth | yes |
Auto Depth | yes |
Width | yes |
Dimension: Dimension Mode | yes |
Dual Chorus: Right Time Ratio | yes |
MIX | |
Stereo Spread | yes |
Global Mix | yes |
Voices
(Blocks Guide) "Whenever the number of voices is set to more than two, the LFO type will change automatically to “SINE.” If the number of voices is greater than two and the LFO type is changed to something other than “SINE,” the number of voices will be reset to two."
(Axe-Fx III) "The Chorus block has up to 8 voices." [7]
A single chorus voice, i.e. for a Vibrato effect, can be obtained by setting LFO Phase to 0.
LFO Type
Roland uses a Triangle wave LFO for its Chorus effect, and a Sine wave LFO for its Vibrato effect. [8]
(Blocks Guide) "Whenever the number of voices is set to more than two, the LFO type will change automatically to “SINE.” If the number of voices is greater than two and the LFO type is changed to something other than “SINE,” the number of voices will be reset to two."
Stereo Spread
Values beyond +/-100% increase the apparent image beyond the stereo field.
More information about chorus
The Chorus block is explained in the Owner's Manual.