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=Compressor/Dynamics: supported by which Fractal Audio products?=
 
=Compressor/Dynamics: supported by which Fractal Audio products?=
* Axe-Fx II: yes.
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* '''Axe-Fx II''': yes.
* FX8: yes.
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* '''FX8''': yes.
* AX8: yes.
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* '''AX8''': yes.
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=X/Y switching in the Compressor/Dynamics block=
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The Compressor block in the Axe-Fx II XL, XL+, FX8 and AX8 supports X/Y switching.
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There's no MIDI CC available for X/Y switching in the Axe-Fx II XL/XL+.
  
 
=About the Compressor/Dynamics types=
 
=About the Compressor/Dynamics types=
* The "Pedal 2" type uses a different algorithm (than "Pedal 1") which is smoother and pumps less.
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The "Pedal 2" type uses a different algorithm (than "Pedal 1") which is smoother and pumps less.
* CPU usage by both "Pedal" types is much less than the "Studio" type.
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* The Dynamics algorithm allows compression or expansion with a single control. When the Dynamics parameter is set to negative values the block compresses the signal, when set to positive values the block expands the signal.
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CPU usage by both "Pedal" types is much less than the "Studio" type.
* Quantum 7 added two “Optical” types to Compressor block. Optical 1 is based on classic optical tube compressors famed for their smooth sound. Use before the Amp block to smooth out your licks and increase sustain. Use after the Amp block for instant “Hit Record” sound. Optical 2 is similar to Optical 1 but uses a true RMS detector.
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* Cliff's comments:
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The Dynamics algorithm allows compression or expansion with a single control. When the Dynamics parameter is set to negative values the block compresses the signal, when set to positive values the block expands the signal.
*# "Optical 1 uses a full-wave rectifier as a detector (peak detector). Optical 2 uses a true RMS detector. The LA-2A and many other compressors use rectifiers as detectors because it's easy and simple. Technically true-RMS detectors are "better" but they are difficult to implement in analog hardware. Whether or not true-RMS is better in actual real-world applications is debatable. There are those that claim that true-RMS detectors more closely replicate the natural compression behavior of the human auditory system. Peak detectors respond more rapidly to transients while RMS detectors have a smoother behavior. The only way to know which you like better is to try them." [https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/ax8-v7-01-public-beta.125272/#post-1490668 source]
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*# "It's not an "LA-2A" but it can sound like one. It's a generic optical compressor that can be adjusted to sound like a variety of compressors. It has adjustable attack, release and compression." [https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/axe-fx-ii-quantum-rev-7-00-firmware-release.124944/page-25#post-1489719 source]
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Quantum 7 added two “Optical” types to Compressor block. Optical 1 is based on classic optical tube compressors famed for their smooth sound. Use before the Amp block to smooth out your licks and increase sustain. Use after the Amp block for instant “Hit Record” sound. Optical 2 is similar to Optical 1 but uses a true RMS detector.
*# "The LA-2A, CL1B, et. al. are high-end studio compressors that use optical circuits." [https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/axe-fx-ii-quantum-rev-7-00-firmware-release.124944/page-28#post-1490770 source]
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Fractal Audio:
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* "Optical 1 uses a full-wave rectifier as a detector (peak detector). Optical 2 uses a true RMS detector. The LA-2A and many other compressors use rectifiers as detectors because it's easy and simple. Technically true-RMS detectors are "better" but they are difficult to implement in analog hardware. Whether or not true-RMS is better in actual real-world applications is debatable. There are those that claim that true-RMS detectors more closely replicate the natural compression behavior of the human auditory system. Peak detectors respond more rapidly to transients while RMS detectors have a smoother behavior. The only way to know which you like better is to try them." [https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/ax8-v7-01-public-beta.125272/#post-1490668 source]
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* "It's not an "LA-2A" but it can sound like one. It's a generic optical compressor that can be adjusted to sound like a variety of compressors. It has adjustable attack, release and compression." [https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/axe-fx-ii-quantum-rev-7-00-firmware-release.124944/page-25#post-1489719 source]
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* "The LA-2A, CL1B, et. al. are high-end studio compressors that use optical circuits." [https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/axe-fx-ii-quantum-rev-7-00-firmware-release.124944/page-28#post-1490770 source]
  
=Compressor block or Amp block compression?=
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=Compressor block or Amp block compression=
* The AMP block has built-in compression: Dynamics parameter in the preamp section, and OUT COMP at the output. You can use it instead of a separate Compressor block. It increases CPU usage.
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The AMP block has built-in compression: Dynamics parameter in the preamp section, and OUT COMP at the output. You can use it instead of a separate Compressor block. It increases CPU usage.
* Cliff: "The Dynamics knob in the Amp block does the same thing as the Dynamics mode of the compressors so you can save a block that way." [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/comp-vs-multicomp.107343/#post-1284495 source]
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Fractal Audio:
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"The Dynamics knob in the Amp block does the same thing as the Dynamics mode of the compressors so you can save a block that way." [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/comp-vs-multicomp.107343/#post-1284495 source]
  
 
=Position of Compressor/Dynamics block on the grid=
 
=Position of Compressor/Dynamics block on the grid=
* Placing the Compressor block after the Amp block makes it interfere less with the amp dynamics.
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Placing the Compressor block after the Amp block makes it interfere less with the amp dynamics.
* When placing a Pedal- or Optical-type compressor after the Amp block, set its input to Line (instead of Instrument).
 
  
=Compressor/Dynamics and X/Y switching=
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When placing a Pedal- or Optical-type compressor after the Amp block, set its input to Line (instead of Instrument).
* The Compressor block in the Axe-Fx II XL, XL+, FX8 and AX8 supports X/Y switching.
 
* There's no MIDI CC available for X/Y switching in the Axe-Fx II XL/XL+.
 
  
 
=Mix parameter=
 
=Mix parameter=
* Compressors are used mostly as a 100% wet effect. But there are compressors with Blend or Mix controls. These can be simulated by using the Mix parameter.
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Compressors are used mostly as a 100% wet effect. But there are compressors with Blend or Mix controls. These can be simulated by using the Mix parameter.
  
 
=Sidechain Select parameter=
 
=Sidechain Select parameter=
* You can use the signal that enters the grid to feed the compressor, even if the compressor block is placed further upon the grid, through the Sidechain Select parameter (Studio mode only).
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You can use the signal that enters the grid to feed the compressor, even if the compressor block is placed further upon the grid, through the Sidechain Select parameter (Studio mode only).
  
 
=Release parameter (Pedal mode)=
 
=Release parameter (Pedal mode)=
* Cliff's comments:
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Fractal Audio:
** "Pedal compressors typically have very long release times so the time is scaled by 10 for pedal mode. The time in studio mode is accurate to within a microsecond." [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/axe-fx-ii-bugs/48630-compressor-release-showing-wrong-time-value.html#post632039 source]
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* "Pedal compressors typically have very long release times so the time is scaled by 10 for pedal mode. The time in studio mode is accurate to within a microsecond." [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/axe-fx-ii-bugs/48630-compressor-release-showing-wrong-time-value.html#post632039 source]
** "The times are the classic "time constants" for analog circuits, i.e. the time it takes for a signal to settle to 37% of it's final value (e^-1)." [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/axe-fx-ii-bugs/48630-compressor-release-showing-wrong-time-value.html#post632069 source]
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* "The times are the classic "time constants" for analog circuits, i.e. the time it takes for a signal to settle to 37% of it's final value (e^-1)." [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/axe-fx-ii-bugs/48630-compressor-release-showing-wrong-time-value.html#post632069 source]
  
 
=Emphasis parameter=
 
=Emphasis parameter=
* Since the Pedal mode does not have a side-chain, this allows for a similar function by pre-emphasizing the high frequencies prior to compression and then de-emphasizing them after.
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Since the Pedal mode does not have a side-chain, this allows for a similar function by pre-emphasizing the high frequencies prior to compression and then de-emphasizing them after.
  
 
=Lookahead parameter=
 
=Lookahead parameter=
* The default Lookahead value has been changed to 0 in firmware 16.x, because of detector improvements.
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The default Lookahead value has been changed to 0 in firmware 16.x, because of detector improvements.
  
 
=Fast RMS detector=
 
=Fast RMS detector=
* The “Fast RMS” Detector type in the Studio Comp mimics the fast detectors in classic rack-mount compressors.
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The “Fast RMS” Detector type in the Studio Comp mimics the fast detectors in classic rack-mount compressors.
* It uses less CPU than the other detectors.
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It uses less CPU than the other detectors.
  
 
=Using Compressor as a limiter=
 
=Using Compressor as a limiter=
* There's no dedicated brickwall limiter in the unit, but the compressor can be used as such. From the manual: "Setting the RATIO to “INFINITY” turns the compressor into a “limiter,” reducing any level above the threshold to the threshold, applying a sort of “ceiling” or “brick-wall limiting” above which nothing can rise." [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/axe-fx-ii-wish-list/39706-limiter.html More information.]
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There's no dedicated brickwall limiter in the unit, but the compressor can be used as such. From the manual: "Setting the RATIO to “INFINITY” turns the compressor into a “limiter,” reducing any level above the threshold to the threshold, applying a sort of “ceiling” or “brick-wall limiting” above which nothing can rise." [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/axe-fx-ii-wish-list/39706-limiter.html More information.]
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=More information=
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* [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/ultra-std-discussion/25398-afx-compression-tips-including-new-9-02-features.html Radley's extensive and comprehensible Compression tips]
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* [http://www.ovnilab.com/faq.shtml Compressor FAQ]
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* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6szjqt6r8Y Danny Danzi's video tutorial]
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_range_compression Dynamic range compression in Wikipedia]
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* [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/axe-fx-ii-discussion/59925-compressor-settings-country-twang-3.html Compressors settings for country]
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* [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/comp-vs-multicomp.107343 Emulate the Solo Dallas Schaffer] [http://solodallas.com/the-schaffer-replica and more information]
  
=Compression tips and tutorials=
 
* [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/ultra-std-discussion/25398-afx-compression-tips-including-new-9-02-features.html Radley's extensive and comprehensible Compression tips.]
 
* [http://www.ovnilab.com/faq.shtml Compressor FAQ.]
 
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6szjqt6r8Y Danny Danzi's video tutorial.]
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_range_compression Dynamic range compression in Wikipedia.]
 
* http://forum.fractalaudio.com/axe-fx-ii-discussion/59925-compressor-settings-country-twang-3.html
 
* [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/comp-vs-multicomp.107343 Emulating the Solo Dallas Schaffer.] [http://solodallas.com/the-schaffer-replica More information]
 
  
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Revision as of 14:25, 11 April 2017

The information on this page supplements the official manuals.

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Compressor/Dynamics: supported by which Fractal Audio products?

  • Axe-Fx II: yes.
  • FX8: yes.
  • AX8: yes.

X/Y switching in the Compressor/Dynamics block

The Compressor block in the Axe-Fx II XL, XL+, FX8 and AX8 supports X/Y switching.

There's no MIDI CC available for X/Y switching in the Axe-Fx II XL/XL+.

About the Compressor/Dynamics types

The "Pedal 2" type uses a different algorithm (than "Pedal 1") which is smoother and pumps less.

CPU usage by both "Pedal" types is much less than the "Studio" type.

The Dynamics algorithm allows compression or expansion with a single control. When the Dynamics parameter is set to negative values the block compresses the signal, when set to positive values the block expands the signal.

Quantum 7 added two “Optical” types to Compressor block. Optical 1 is based on classic optical tube compressors famed for their smooth sound. Use before the Amp block to smooth out your licks and increase sustain. Use after the Amp block for instant “Hit Record” sound. Optical 2 is similar to Optical 1 but uses a true RMS detector.

Fractal Audio:

  • "Optical 1 uses a full-wave rectifier as a detector (peak detector). Optical 2 uses a true RMS detector. The LA-2A and many other compressors use rectifiers as detectors because it's easy and simple. Technically true-RMS detectors are "better" but they are difficult to implement in analog hardware. Whether or not true-RMS is better in actual real-world applications is debatable. There are those that claim that true-RMS detectors more closely replicate the natural compression behavior of the human auditory system. Peak detectors respond more rapidly to transients while RMS detectors have a smoother behavior. The only way to know which you like better is to try them." source
  • "It's not an "LA-2A" but it can sound like one. It's a generic optical compressor that can be adjusted to sound like a variety of compressors. It has adjustable attack, release and compression." source
  • "The LA-2A, CL1B, et. al. are high-end studio compressors that use optical circuits." source

Compressor block or Amp block compression

The AMP block has built-in compression: Dynamics parameter in the preamp section, and OUT COMP at the output. You can use it instead of a separate Compressor block. It increases CPU usage.

Fractal Audio: "The Dynamics knob in the Amp block does the same thing as the Dynamics mode of the compressors so you can save a block that way." source

Position of Compressor/Dynamics block on the grid

Placing the Compressor block after the Amp block makes it interfere less with the amp dynamics.

When placing a Pedal- or Optical-type compressor after the Amp block, set its input to Line (instead of Instrument).

Mix parameter

Compressors are used mostly as a 100% wet effect. But there are compressors with Blend or Mix controls. These can be simulated by using the Mix parameter.

Sidechain Select parameter

You can use the signal that enters the grid to feed the compressor, even if the compressor block is placed further upon the grid, through the Sidechain Select parameter (Studio mode only).

Release parameter (Pedal mode)

Fractal Audio:

  • "Pedal compressors typically have very long release times so the time is scaled by 10 for pedal mode. The time in studio mode is accurate to within a microsecond." source
  • "The times are the classic "time constants" for analog circuits, i.e. the time it takes for a signal to settle to 37% of it's final value (e^-1)." source

Emphasis parameter

Since the Pedal mode does not have a side-chain, this allows for a similar function by pre-emphasizing the high frequencies prior to compression and then de-emphasizing them after.

Lookahead parameter

The default Lookahead value has been changed to 0 in firmware 16.x, because of detector improvements.

Fast RMS detector

The “Fast RMS” Detector type in the Studio Comp mimics the fast detectors in classic rack-mount compressors. It uses less CPU than the other detectors.

Using Compressor as a limiter

There's no dedicated brickwall limiter in the unit, but the compressor can be used as such. From the manual: "Setting the RATIO to “INFINITY” turns the compressor into a “limiter,” reducing any level above the threshold to the threshold, applying a sort of “ceiling” or “brick-wall limiting” above which nothing can rise." More information.

More information