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<font color=red>This page discusses functionality of legacy products and will not be updated.</font>
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=Available on which products=
 
=Available on which products=
  
 
* '''Axe-Fx III''': no (replaced with [[Channels]])
 
* '''Axe-Fx III''': no (replaced with [[Channels]])
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* '''FM9''': no (replaced with [[Channels]])
 
* '''FM3''': no (replaced with [[Channels]])
 
* '''FM3''': no (replaced with [[Channels]])
 
* '''Axe-Fx II''': yes
 
* '''Axe-Fx II''': yes
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* '''FX8''': yes
 
* '''FX8''': yes
  
=What is X/Y switching=
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=About X/Y switching=
  
 
Most effect blocks in the Axe-Fx II, FX8 and AX8 can be switched quickly between two sets of settings: X and Y.
 
Most effect blocks in the Axe-Fx II, FX8 and AX8 can be switched quickly between two sets of settings: X and Y.
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* GEQ X = soft boost, GEQ Y = loud boost
 
* GEQ X = soft boost, GEQ Y = loud boost
  
<blockquote>"The idea behind X/Y is that people often have multiple distortion/chorus/delay/etc. pedals on their board but they rarely have more than one on at a time. So rather than creating more instances of effects, which sucks up CPU, have each instance capable of more than one sound." [https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/axe-fx-ii-technical-questions-thread.35997/post-492028 source] </blockquote>
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X/Y switching has been replaced with [[Channels]] on next generation Fractal Audio products.
 
 
X/Y switching has been replaced with [[Channels]] on next generation Fractal Audio products (Axe-Fx III, FM3).
 
  
 
=Which effect blocks support X/Y=
 
=Which effect blocks support X/Y=
  
'''Axe-Fx II Mark I and II''' Amp, Cab, Chorus, Delay, Drive, Flanger, Phaser, Pitch, Reverb, Wah, Rotary
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* '''Axe-Fx II Mark I and II''': Amp, Cab, Chorus, Delay, Drive, Flanger, Phaser, Pitch, Reverb, Wah, Rotary
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* '''Axe-Fx II XL and XL+''': Amp, Cab, Chorus, Compressor/Dynamics, Delay, Drive, Flanger, GEQ, Gate, Mixer, PEQ, Phaser, Pitch, Rotary, Reverb, Tremolo, Wah
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* '''AX8''': Amp, Cab, Chorus, Compressor/Dynamics, Delay, Drive, Filter, Flanger, Gate, Multi Delay, Phaser, Pitch, Rotary, Reverb, Tremolo, Wah
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* '''FX8''': Chorus, Compressor/Dynamics, Delay, Drive, Filter, Flanger, Gate, MIDI, Multi Delay, Phaser, Pitch, Relay, Rotary, Reverb, Tremolo, Wah
  
'''Axe-Fx II XL and XL+''' – Amp, Cab, Chorus, Compressor/Dynamics, Delay, Drive, Flanger, GEQ, Gate, Mixer, PEQ, Phaser, Pitch, Rotary, Reverb, Tremolo, Wah
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=Switching between X and Y=
 
 
'''AX8''' – Amp, Cab, Chorus, Compressor/Dynamics, Delay, Drive, Filter, Flanger, Gate, Multi Delay, Phaser, Pitch, Rotary, Reverb, Tremolo, Wah
 
 
 
'''FX8''' – Chorus, Compressor/Dynamics, Delay, Drive, Filter, Flanger, Gate, MIDI, Multi Delay, Phaser, Pitch, Relay, Rotary, Reverb, Tremolo, Wah
 
 
 
 
 
Regarding transferring presets on the Axe-Fx II:
 
 
 
<blockquote>"Any blocks that have X/Y on the XL but not on the Mark II will not import the bypass state as that is stored differently. You need to manually adjust the bypass state after import." [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/potential-bug-xl-importing-mk-ii-presets.100398/#post-1203688 source] </blockquote>
 
 
 
=Switch between X/Y=
 
  
 
'''Axe-Fx II''' — In the Edit mode of a block, press the dedicated X/Y buttons on the front panel.
 
'''Axe-Fx II''' — In the Edit mode of a block, press the dedicated X/Y buttons on the front panel.
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'''MFC-101 and other MIDI controllers''' — Most blocks have a dedicated MIDI CC for X/Y switching. These are listed in the manuals. Assign the CC to a switch to alternate between X and Y.
 
'''MFC-101 and other MIDI controllers''' — Most blocks have a dedicated MIDI CC for X/Y switching. These are listed in the manuals. Assign the CC to a switch to alternate between X and Y.
  
You can configure X/Y effect blocks to engage the effect in either X or Y mode. Example: ([http://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/ia-x-y-control-how-to-turn-on-and-switch-xy.38230/#post-523176 source])
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You can configure X/Y effect blocks to engage the effect in either X or Y mode. Example: [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/ia-x-y-control-how-to-turn-on-and-switch-xy.38230/#post-523176]
 
# IA Switch 1, ON message: DELAY 1 ON, DELAY 1 X (CC#47:127, CC#106: 127)
 
# IA Switch 1, ON message: DELAY 1 ON, DELAY 1 X (CC#47:127, CC#106: 127)
 
# IA Switch 1, OFF message: DELAY 1 OFF, DELAY 1 X (CC#47:0, CC#106: 127)
 
# IA Switch 1, OFF message: DELAY 1 OFF, DELAY 1 X (CC#47:0, CC#106: 127)
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Note that not all effect blocks which support X/Y have a specific MIDI CC for that task. The FX8 lets you assign CCs to those, the Axe-Fx II does not. There's a way around this. Use a MIDI Monitor to detect the MIDI sysex command that switches the block between X/Y. Then program a switch on the controller using that data.
 
Note that not all effect blocks which support X/Y have a specific MIDI CC for that task. The FX8 lets you assign CCs to those, the Axe-Fx II does not. There's a way around this. Use a MIDI Monitor to detect the MIDI sysex command that switches the block between X/Y. Then program a switch on the controller using that data.
  
=Visual X/Y indication=
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=Visual indication=
  
'''Axe-Fx II and FX8''' The current X/Y state of the selected block is shown in an effect block's EDIT menu (not on the Layout page).
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'''Axe-Fx II and FX8''': The current X/Y state of the selected block is shown in an effect block's EDIT menu (not on the Layout page).
  
'''AX8''' The current X/Y state of the selected block is shown at the bottom of the Layout page.
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'''AX8''': The current X/Y state of the selected block is shown at the bottom of the Layout page.
  
 
The visual X/Y state of effects blocks is shown in the software editors.
 
The visual X/Y state of effects blocks is shown in the software editors.
  
=X/Y and CPU usage=
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=CPU usage=
  
[[CPU usage]] is calculated using the current block state (X or Y). When switching an effect between X/Y, the preset's CPU usage may change.
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Reported CPU usage is based on the current block state (X or Y). When switching an effect between X and Y, the preset's CPU usage may change.
  
=Copy-Paste X/Y=
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=Copy and paste=
  
 
The "X" settings can be copied to "Y", and vice versa, on the front panel of the Axe-Fx II by pressing the X or Y button twice quickly. There's no equivalent shortcut on the AX8 and FX8 hardware.
 
The "X" settings can be copied to "Y", and vice versa, on the front panel of the Axe-Fx II by pressing the X or Y button twice quickly. There's no equivalent shortcut on the AX8 and FX8 hardware.
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The software editor can be used to copy and paste an entire block or just the X or Y settings within the preset or to another preset.
 
The software editor can be used to copy and paste an entire block or just the X or Y settings within the preset or to another preset.
  
=Swap X/Y=
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=Swapping=
  
Swapping X/Y settings of a block requires use of the editor.
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Swapping the X and Y settings of a block requires use of the editor.
  
=Block reset and X/Y=
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=Block reset=
  
[[Presets#Reset a block|Resetting block settings]] on the hardware resets the parameters to their default values. This only applies to the current state: X or Y.
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Resetting block settings on the hardware resets the parameters to their default values. This only applies to the current state: X or Y.
  
To reset the entire block, switch to the other state and repeat the process, or use the software editor to reset the entire block.
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To reset the entire block, switch to the other state and repeat the process, or use the editor to reset the entire block.
  
=Modifiers and X/Y=
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=Modifiers=
  
If a modifier has been assigned to a parameter, it always applies to both X and Y. It's not possible to have different modifier settings for X and Y, the architecture doesn't allow this. [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/separate-controllers-for-x-y-states.97591/#post-1172114 source]
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If a modifier has been assigned to a parameter, it always applies to both X and Y. It's not possible to have different modifier settings for X and Y, the architecture doesn't allow this. [http://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/separate-controllers-for-x-y-states.97591/#post-1172114]
  
=Recall Effect and X/Y=
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=Recall Effect=
  
The [[Presets|Recall Effect]] function (which copies block settings from another preset) always imports both X and Y settings. If you want to copy just X or just Y, use the software editor.
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The [[Presets#Recall_Effect|Recall Effect]] function (which copies block settings from another preset) always imports both X and Y settings. If you want to copy just X or just Y, use the software editor.
  
 
=X/Y switching can cause an audio gap=
 
=X/Y switching can cause an audio gap=
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When switching an Amp block between X and Y, there will be a short gap in the sound.
 
When switching an Amp block between X and Y, there will be a short gap in the sound.
  
Read this: [[Amp_block#Switching_between_amp_sounds|Switching between amp sounds]]
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=Compare sounds and settings=
 
 
=Compare sounds and settings with X/Y=
 
  
X/Y switching offers an easy way to compare sounds when tweaking. Example:
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X/Y switching offers an easy way to compare sounds when tweaking.
  
# Go to an Amp block, state "X"
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# Go to a block, state "X".
# Double-click "Y" on the front panel to copy the "X" settings into "Y"
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# Double-click "Y" on the front panel to copy the "X" settings into "Y".
# Select X or Y, and adjust settings
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# Select X or Y, and adjust settings.
# Now alternate between X and Y to see and hear the differences
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# Now alternate between X and Y to see and hear the differences.
  
You can also do this in the software editor.
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You can also do this in the editor.
  
 
This also offers an easy method to quickly see non-default settings, by resetting one side to default settings.
 
This also offers an easy method to quickly see non-default settings, by resetting one side to default settings.
 
An alternative approach to comparing sounds on the Axe-Fx II is to save a preset as a [[Editors#Snapshot|Snapshot]] in the editor. Select Revert to get the original sound back. Then drag and drop the snapshot file into the editor.
 
  
 
=Crossfading sounds=
 
=Crossfading sounds=
  
Sounds do not crossfade when switching between X and Y. Use [[Scenes#Scene_Controllers|Scene Controllers]] to accomplish this.
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Sounds do not crossfade when switching between X and Y. Use [[Scene controllers]] instead.
  
 
[[category:Axe-Fx2]]
 
[[category:Axe-Fx2]]
 
[[category:FX8]]
 
[[category:FX8]]
 
[[category:AX8]]
 
[[category:AX8]]
[[category:Remote]]
 
 
[[category:Sounds]]
 
[[category:Sounds]]
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[[category:All]]

Revision as of 12:18, 8 April 2024

This page discusses functionality of legacy products and will not be updated.

Available on which products

  • Axe-Fx III: no (replaced with Channels)
  • FM9: no (replaced with Channels)
  • FM3: no (replaced with Channels)
  • Axe-Fx II: yes
  • AX8: yes
  • FX8: yes

About X/Y switching

Most effect blocks in the Axe-Fx II, FX8 and AX8 can be switched quickly between two sets of settings: X and Y.

Examples:

  • Amp X = clean, Amp Y = high gain
  • Phaser X = Script 90, Phaser Y = Vibe
  • Rotary X = slow, Rotary Y = fast
  • Cab X = mono, Cab Y = stereo
  • GEQ X = soft boost, GEQ Y = loud boost

X/Y switching has been replaced with Channels on next generation Fractal Audio products.

Which effect blocks support X/Y

  • Axe-Fx II Mark I and II: Amp, Cab, Chorus, Delay, Drive, Flanger, Phaser, Pitch, Reverb, Wah, Rotary
  • Axe-Fx II XL and XL+: Amp, Cab, Chorus, Compressor/Dynamics, Delay, Drive, Flanger, GEQ, Gate, Mixer, PEQ, Phaser, Pitch, Rotary, Reverb, Tremolo, Wah
  • AX8: Amp, Cab, Chorus, Compressor/Dynamics, Delay, Drive, Filter, Flanger, Gate, Multi Delay, Phaser, Pitch, Rotary, Reverb, Tremolo, Wah
  • FX8: Chorus, Compressor/Dynamics, Delay, Drive, Filter, Flanger, Gate, MIDI, Multi Delay, Phaser, Pitch, Relay, Rotary, Reverb, Tremolo, Wah

Switching between X and Y

Axe-Fx II — In the Edit mode of a block, press the dedicated X/Y buttons on the front panel.

FX8 and AX8:

  • Hold a switch (1-8) to alternate between X and Y. If the LED is amber lit, Y is active.
  • Assign one of the three F-switches to "Single X/Y" or "Sticky X/Y", then press the switch which has been assigned to the effect.
  • Switch a block between X and Y on the grid using a shortcut key:
    • AX8 — SHIFT + 2x EDIT on LAYOUT page, or 2x EDIT in a block's editing mode
    • FX8 — 2x EDIT on CFG screen

Scenes — The X/Y state of an effect can be set per scene.

Editors — Press the "X" key on the keyboard to switch a block between X and Y in the software editor. The X/Y state of each block is shown in the software editor, without needing to select the block first.

MFC-101 and other MIDI controllers — Most blocks have a dedicated MIDI CC for X/Y switching. These are listed in the manuals. Assign the CC to a switch to alternate between X and Y.

You can configure X/Y effect blocks to engage the effect in either X or Y mode. Example: [1]

  1. IA Switch 1, ON message: DELAY 1 ON, DELAY 1 X (CC#47:127, CC#106: 127)
  2. IA Switch 1, OFF message: DELAY 1 OFF, DELAY 1 X (CC#47:0, CC#106: 127)
  3. IA Switch 2, OFF message: DELAY 1 ON, DELAY 1 Y (CC#47:127, CC#106: 0)
  4. IA Switch 2, OFF message: DELAY 1 OFF, DELAY 1 Y (CC#47:0, CC#106: 0)

Or use a MIDI controller's "group" or "linked switches" feature.

On the MFC-101 MIDI foot controller X is green, Y is red. If you prefer the default state to be green, use Y as the default state.

Note that not all effect blocks which support X/Y have a specific MIDI CC for that task. The FX8 lets you assign CCs to those, the Axe-Fx II does not. There's a way around this. Use a MIDI Monitor to detect the MIDI sysex command that switches the block between X/Y. Then program a switch on the controller using that data.

Visual indication

Axe-Fx II and FX8: The current X/Y state of the selected block is shown in an effect block's EDIT menu (not on the Layout page).

AX8: The current X/Y state of the selected block is shown at the bottom of the Layout page.

The visual X/Y state of effects blocks is shown in the software editors.

CPU usage

Reported CPU usage is based on the current block state (X or Y). When switching an effect between X and Y, the preset's CPU usage may change.

Copy and paste

The "X" settings can be copied to "Y", and vice versa, on the front panel of the Axe-Fx II by pressing the X or Y button twice quickly. There's no equivalent shortcut on the AX8 and FX8 hardware.

The software editor can be used to copy and paste an entire block or just the X or Y settings within the preset or to another preset.

Swapping

Swapping the X and Y settings of a block requires use of the editor.

Block reset

Resetting block settings on the hardware resets the parameters to their default values. This only applies to the current state: X or Y.

To reset the entire block, switch to the other state and repeat the process, or use the editor to reset the entire block.

Modifiers

If a modifier has been assigned to a parameter, it always applies to both X and Y. It's not possible to have different modifier settings for X and Y, the architecture doesn't allow this. [2]

Recall Effect

The Recall Effect function (which copies block settings from another preset) always imports both X and Y settings. If you want to copy just X or just Y, use the software editor.

X/Y switching can cause an audio gap

When switching an Amp block between X and Y, there will be a short gap in the sound.

Compare sounds and settings

X/Y switching offers an easy way to compare sounds when tweaking.

  1. Go to a block, state "X".
  2. Double-click "Y" on the front panel to copy the "X" settings into "Y".
  3. Select X or Y, and adjust settings.
  4. Now alternate between X and Y to see and hear the differences.

You can also do this in the editor.

This also offers an easy method to quickly see non-default settings, by resetting one side to default settings.

Crossfading sounds

Sounds do not crossfade when switching between X and Y. Use Scene controllers instead.